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The decline of good English due to texting

edited June 2014 in Writing
I was idly Googling some stuff this week and came across an old article by Radio 4 presenter John Humphrys. It's one of his typically reactionary pieces, this one indignant at the loss of hyphens in some compound words, and even worse, abbreviations in texting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483511/I-h8-txt-msgs-How-texting-wrecking-language.html

As with his books Lost for Words and Beyond Words, I think the article mainly gives an insight into one man's pet peeves than anything else. Besides that, the analogy of texting to the exploits of Ghengis Khan is quite the most crass thing I've seen from him.

The upside of reading this kind of bluster is that you often find a critical and informative response, and this one from David Crystal is a delight:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/jul/05/saturdayreviewsfeatres.guardianreview

It's made me realise that I should buy more of Crystal's books and thank my lucky stars that I only investigated Humphrys books.

Comments

  • Thanks for sharing, I'll give them both a look.

    I've never liked text speak, gamer speak, leet speak or whatever silly name people give it. Some specialists think it's fascinating to see a knew language spring up and develop, I can't help but think of it as more a language slowly dying.

    In general context, text speak is no good in the professional world, for CVs, official paperwork etc. It has it's place and reasons for existing - typing in a hurry (playing games like Warcraft, mic broken and trying to raid with friends), or character limits on text messages (now Twitter also, though personally, I prefer the challenge of trying to NOT resort to text speak in 140 characters).

    Some days I feel young, others old, but in my 30s I still shake my head at the state of the average person's grasp on English. People my own age, 5, 10 or 15 years younger and those that can spell what I'd consider simple to average words, or understand there/their/they're your/you're are in the minority

    Hmm, after the adverb comments, I do sound a little crotchety here lately, I promise I'm not always this narrow minded and ranty sounding!
  • If text speak really had the power to affect the English language that much then why. STOP. wasn't STOP. everyone speaking STOP. like this after the invention of the telegram?
  • I think the examples he gives of hyphens being removed from words are nonsense. I really don't care whether or not pigeonhole is written with a hyphen - it doesn't affect the pronunciation. Far worse (in my opinion - sorry, IMHO) is the removal of the hyphen in words such as co-operate. A young child seeing the word as I've written it can immediately tell that the two o's are to be pronounced separately. Remove the hyphen and the child might think they've found a verb that describes the craft of a barrel maker.

    Texting abbreviations - I don't really mind them in text messages (although I use them very sparingly), but that comes with a proviso: I only use commonly known ones. I'm surprised that he says the meaning of tks is obvious. I hadn't have a clue what it meant until he translated it!

    I don't understand the objection to emoticons. He should consider the fact that people reading your words can't see your facial expression or hear your tone of voice. If a friend has a ticket for a sold-out concert I might say to him "You bastard!". He can tell from facial expression and tone of voice that I don't mean the comment to be taken seriously. If it's in writing I need to follow up with :) to ensure he knows it's not serious.

    Finally, I think he is wrong to complain about the dictionary including the new forms - despite the phrase "dictionary definition", in my opinion the role of a dictionary is to describe language it, not define it.
  • edited June 2014
    I think the problem with Humphrys argument is that the same thing has been said for centuries, that changes in language are degrading it. And as Crystal shows, abbreviations are nothing new.

    What I think is bad about certain language change is how the meaning of some words change because of the ignorant rather than the lierate. The number of times I've seen people use the word "aloud" instead of "allowed" makes me wonder if in a few years dictionaries will reflect the change.

    Ironically, the version of the OED that Humphrys loved so much was itself a result of language change.
  • What does tks mean? My only thought is it could be thanks, but that wouldn't be obvious...
  • It means thanks, unless it's a typo for tsk :-)
  • Tetrakishexahedron.

    Kids nowadays and their love of cubes with pyramids erected on each face. Back in my day we had 2D circles and we were happy to have that!!
  • tks? Why not use "ta", save an extra letter and save confusing people?

    Although saying that, I did have to explain the difference of "ta" and "tata" (in TTFN) to some confused Polish friends.
  • On a positive side, if ever I'm murdered and the villains try to use my mobile 'as me', my friends will know something's wrong...unless the murderer is as pedantic about these things as me. 8-X
  • On a positive side, if ever I'm murdered and the villains try to use my mobile 'as me', my friends will know something's wrong...unless the murderer is as pedantic about these things as me. 8-X
    Indeed. Analysis of texting styles has been used in a murder case (IIRC) to prove that a text was not sent by the phone's owner.
  • edited June 2014
    My pet hate is 'LOL'.
    It meant 'lots of love' in those far-off letter-writing days.

    Now it is used far too often.
    Apparently it is used to mean 'laughs out loud' - and how often does one do that?

    "shuffles off to the grumpy thread"
  • edited June 2014
    My pet hate is 'LOL'.
    It meant 'lots of love' in those far-off letter-writing days.

    Now it is used far too often.
    Apparently it is used to mean 'laughs out loud' - and how often does one do that?

    "shuffles off to the grumpy thread"
    I once worked with someone who actually did laugh out loud often after saying something, but I agree that much use of LOL on the net is silly to say the least. On FB I expect any day now to see someone say something really daft like "I'm going to make a cup of tea, LOL".
  • I hadn't have a clue what it meant until he translated it!
    What an embarrassing mistake for the arch-pedant to make - and I'm too late to edit it. I obviously couldn't decide between "didn't have" and "hadn't got" and ended up with half of each!

    On Facebook there are many people who use LOL the same way I would use a full stop. It appears to be their standard way of ending a sentence. no matter how unfunny.

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  • Tee hee.

    One of my relatives always ends her emails with LOL. I haven't the heart to tell her.
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