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Flicker.com

Lydia1960Lydia1960
edited January 2017 in Writing
Just need to ask these questions again because I cannot find the thread I started with these ones, and their answers on there.

Just needing confirmation that flicker.com is the right website to get free images, videos to download onto my social media sites? Are there any other ones that are just as good? I know there was mention of one with 'pix' in the title.

How do check that these images are actually free on these sites? Want to ensure that I don't get caught if I download an image. Any advise? Sorry for repeating these questions. The thread just disappeared..??
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  • PaigeElizabethTurnerPaigeElizabethTurner
    https://pixabay.com/
  • LizLiz
    If you want to keep a thread, click on the little star top right, and it will turn yellow. Then it will always be in a list down the side of TB, waiting to be read again by you.

    Flikr CREATIVE COMMONS will have free-to-use photos - but only monetarily. You still have to display the relative creative commons license with the photo, acknowledge the photographer's name, and possibly link back to the original photographer
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    Yeah, that's the one that was mentioned before that I checked out. Flickr CREATIVE COMMONS.

    Not quite sure what you mean by the word 'monetarily?'. That you have to display the necessary license with the photo(do you need to pay for this? Every time? Or would one license allow full access to the photos on this website, and other websites too?).
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    Thanks for the full length of that other site, PET.

    And thanks to Liz for that knowledge about retaining threads..
  • LizLiz
    I mean you don't pay for the photo with money, you pay with acknowledgement.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    Okay. Noted. Thanks again.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    Just checked on Flickr CREATIVE COMMONS. Looked at the Public Domain Dedication section. Chose a photo which represents the image I want for my Facebook account. Am I just allowed to upload that onto there? This section is where the copyright holder waives interest in their work so others may freely exploit and use the work without restriction under copyright or database law. So I can upload it if I acknowledge the photographer? Without a creative commons license?
  • LizLiz
    No, you cannot. Instructions for using a cc image are here on this blog: https://librarianbyday.net/2009/09/28/how-to-attribute-a-creative-commons-photo-from-flickr/

    But I'm not sure how you could use it as an image for your Facebook - I don't think you can. Because the image would show up on every comment you make and you can't show the license on every comment you make. Therefore you would be using it illegally.

    I think you ned to use a photo of yourself.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    Okay, but I do note that other Facebook profiles sometimes have images that suggest that maybe they have downloaded it from one of these type of sites? How can that be? Am aware that a lot of 'illegal downloading' goes on, so could that account for this?
  • LizLiz
    Well- if they have, you have to ask yourself, why? Are they really who they say they are at all? Are they someone else entirely, a spammer, someone who likes to stir up trouble, etc etc? There are plenty of those. there are also people who ask to be your friend who have downloaded someone else's details entirely.

    Just be aware that you would be open to being sued if you did that - the first public comment you made, by accident or design, the person who took the image could sue you.

    As I've said before, why not just have a photo you've taken yourself of something else? Your teddy bear, a view, a horse, something you are interested in...
  • LizLiz
    Is this on an author page or a personal page?
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    It's just an impression I have and, logic tells you that there will be those who will take advantage of just such a possibility...
  • LizLiz
    Yes, but only those who have something to hide.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    If you pay for an image can you use it on your Facebook page etc without having to acknowledge the photographer? Which photos can you use for that?
  • LizLiz
    You'd have to find an image and ask the photographer for that, I think.

    You haven't answered- is this a personal page or an author page?
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    I do note that other Facebook profiles sometimes have images that suggest that maybe they have downloaded it from one of these type of sites? How can that be?
    There are people who either have no idea about copyright and think anything they see online is fair game, or do know but don't care that they're breaking the rules. Often they'll get away with it as suing someone over a Facebook or blog post is unlikely to be worth the trouble. That doesn't make it OK.
  • LizLiz
    It wouldn't be just one FB post though, as you would have the image for a while, so much more likely to stir trouble. There was a blog post about this someone mentioned quite recently - can't recall where.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    It's just a hunch, Liz, but sometimes I will on some Facebook profiles people's images aren't matching up to the content they are expressing, but I could be wrong. As PM explains this type of thing does go on, but no real harm is done..
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    No harm is done? I most certainly did not say that!

    Theft of copyright is a very serious matter and does HUGE harm to all creative people.
  • LizLiz
    How would you like a piece of your writing stolen and used by someone who claims they wrote it? It's EXACTLY the same. Copyright theft.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    I stand corrected again. Sometimes I don't engage logic in my thought patterns. Lack of opportunities to put thoughts into action.

    Downloaded a book about tumblr. It was suggested that downloading images from off reddit would be a good way of gaining interest in my site. Are these images free? That you can download them without fear of copyright infringements?

    And just how do you route images from off an IFTTT account from the sub reddit to your tumblr site?
  • LizLiz
    Lydia, just listen. NO images are free. Not one. NONE.
  • Lou TreleavenLou Treleaven
    As a writer your words are important. I really wouldn't worry about having images.
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    How do go about downloading images from reddit then? There are quite a number of images there and it is easier for me, as a technophobe to download them from there. Can anyone shed any light on this one?
  • LizLiz
    I went and had a look at Reddit - it seems to be a middleman where you are directed towards free-for-use photos. Each place you went to would be different.

    But the problem with free-for-use photos, if the original photographer is not credited or referred to, how do you know they really are free to use?

    And what is more, there have been instances of people making photos creative commons and then changing the conditions, getting in contact with users and demanding money. The user has NO WAY to prove that when they used the photo it was under a CC license.
  • C2C2
    Just out of curiosity, Lydia, what kind of images are you looking for?
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    I'm trying to gain some followers on tumblr, and as that is a highly visual social media site, think I will need to download images on a regular basis if I am to succeed in this aim.

    As an additional thought. If I reblogged other tumblrs blog posts images, would that be acceptable and free of charge? So that I can have as many images as I need without the necessity of paying for them or, just as important for me, not have to do the technical fiddly bits connected with downloading images(???)?

    I need images that might reflect the type of things that my potential followers would find approvable. So experimenting with these images to find out what works, and what doesn't, is the key. Someone suggested that to gain followers on tumblr you should follow 200 blogs a day, and add some comments to some of them, and when the limit is reached, delete these and add more.. sounds sensible? Or at least, worth trying?
  • C2C2
    I have read your post, Lydia, and I can't for the life of me understand why you would want to pamper to the whims and fancy's of others to gain approval of potential followers, and as for blogging 200 a day, pfft. Your writing is more important, isn't it?
    You are an individual do things the way you want to, produce and present your own images...be brave.
  • PaigeElizabethTurnerPaigeElizabethTurner
    . . . and as for blogging 200 a day . . .
    Come on, C2. 200 per day is not such a tall order. Is it? When one has many themes and sub-texts to discover, and find directions to target potential followers, 200 might afford Lydia some really positive results. And we, the readers, will be the beneficiaries.

    Go with your heart, Lydia!!

  • C2C2
    :), PET, it would be for me, I'm going by the amount of time I have, not much, but then I'm not promoting myself to the writing world. As we the readers being the beneficiaries, well, I suppose that depends on what the writer produces for the reader, as I said, be brave.
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    I really don't understand this obsession with followers, Lydia. It's never crossed my mind. I just write books, short stories, or whatever, and see what happens.

    You are most definitely over thinking all this and creating so much difficulty and so many questions and paths that you are getting lost. Think about words and story, not strangers.
  • LizLiz

    Come on, C2. 200 per day is not such a tall order. Is it?
    That's FOLLOW 200 blogs a day, PET, and put remarks on them all. That is a ridiculous order, and way too many. During the April Challenge, I have prewritten all my posts, and they go up each day automatically, and all I have to do is look at, read and comment on other blogs. It takes AGES. you are supposed to do 5, and I have never managed above 20. I usually do about 10. 200 is LUDICROUS.

  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    You're right, of course. I must try and avoid crackpot schemes to get followers. So back to the writing and continue onwards..
  • snailmalesnailmale
    You have been told time and time again, Lydia, that if you want followers you will have to provide something for them to follow.
  • PaigeElizabethTurnerPaigeElizabethTurner
    Precisely what Lydia's doing, SM. She is just pedantic and meticulous about getting her 'house in order'. In 2019 all the social media will be up-and-running, and then we will see some writing!!
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    I know I have to 'socialise' online to gain followers. To try to engage them in 'chat' to attract them to my sites. I was intending to write a very short story or two to try to harness some interest. Got sidelined again. Would that really interest stray users onto my sites?
  • PaigeElizabethTurnerPaigeElizabethTurner
    No.
  • Lou TreleavenLou Treleaven
    I know I have to 'socialise' online to gain followers. To try to engage them in 'chat' to attract them to my sites.
    This sounds almost painful! If you're not going to enjoy social media for its own sake, don't do it. It's supposed to be fun too.
  • PaigeElizabethTurnerPaigeElizabethTurner


    This sounds almost painful!
    Quite right, Lou. But for whom?

    :D
  • Lydia1960Lydia1960
    Just posing another question. About flickr or other sites. If I pay for some images, to ensure that I don't get quarrels with the image makers, would that be sufficient to enable the use of these without the threat of being sued? To cover myself from that?
  • KramerKramer
    edited January 2017
    Good morning Lydia

    I'm going to ask a few questions and make an observation or two, after which I aim to make like a BBC Dragon and declare myself "Out" of this and, possibly, any forum posts from you.

    Q1: Do you want/intend to be a writer or a blogger? Not that being one excludes being the other but it appears to me that you are focusing solely on building a social media following.

    Q2: What type of images are you referring to and why can you not take you own versions of these, thus avoiding any of the potential difficulties that seem to be your main concern?

    Q3: Why do you feel that a writers' forum is best placed to answer questions regarding image copyright issues?

    Q4: Similarly, is a writers' forum the best place to seek advice on building social media traffic to your site?

    Observation: My own experience of social media, Twitter especially, is that when starting from zero followers, the way to grow them (if that is your intent) is to engage with people who share similar views to your own. Also, to interact with some who do not subscribe to your own views - that way you can see a bigger picture of issues etc and learn new things too.

    Observation: Make you web presence as clear and easy to navigate and view as possible. Avoid typos and bad design as these will make visitors go elsewhere. Add interesting articles and informative postings to your social media. Do not simply retweet and repost those from others, this will not make people keen to follow you - why should they if you only retweet post from other folk, they might as well just follow the original poster in the first place.

    Best regards

    Gavin
  • PaigeElizabethTurnerPaigeElizabethTurner
    Excellent, Gavin. Especially Q2. So elementary, but I think none of us even suggested that. Even the phone's cameras now can shoot good images; certainly adequate for a start-up social media site that will shed followers like a butterfly from a chrysalis.
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    You could take a photo of something as simple as an open notebook and pen.
  • Baggy BooksBaggy Books
    edited January 2017
    My killer mouse went down very well on Twitter.


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  • LizLiz
    Excellent, Gavin. Especially Q2. So elementary, but I think none of us even suggested that.
    I have.

  • Baggy BooksBaggy Books
    As have others.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    I think that part of Lydia's problem with images is that she can't get out and about to take her own. She is limited to what is available online - at least, that's the way I understand it.
  • Baggy BooksBaggy Books
    There's nothing wrong with using photos taken indoors.
  • LizLiz
    Even if you're infested with mice and little people.
  • KramerKramer
    Even if you're infested with mice and little people.
    Have I missed something?
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