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'Outsourcing' websites looking for writers

edited December 2010 in - Resources
This year, I decided to take the jump and leave a job that I'm not happy with. My plan is to use a variety of skills and set up as a sole trader - a lot of these projects may be linked to writing, (copywriting, screenwriting, editorial, research, film reviews) to support time I spend working more ambitious projects. I've budgeted like a demon, saved a load of money, and have a comfortable cushion to support myself if it doesn't work out.

One of the things I have encountered seem to be websites that take advantage of outsourcing - I have registered with Prospect Solutions (http://www.prospectsolution.com/) and Odesk (www.odesk.com) thus far, and just been acepted on to Demand Studios (https://www.demandstudios.com). There appear to be a mixture of copywriting and more creative paid jobs available.

My main concern is that whle Prospect Solutions is based in the UK, Demand Studios appears to accept content for UK writers geared to a US audience, and ODesk, (while open to everyone) is based in the US and pays in $.

Now I know in our big electronic community that this shouldn't be an issue...but until I can figure out how to make this tally up on my tax return, I'd be interested to know if any writers on this forum get any 'bread and butter' work through UK equivalent sites, producing UK specific content in £ sterling as default?

Here's some other sites I've been researching that may be of interest. - although I haven't properly looked at them yet:
http://www.wordsofworth.co.uk/
http://www.academicknowledge.com
www.freelancer.co.uk?

Any thoughts, tales, experiences?

Thanks!

Comments

  • edited December 2010
    welcome to TB, Mwoodman.
    No answers for you, I don't do outsourcing work, not sure if anyone else on here does, as the rewards seem too low for the amount of work involved - usually. Why not try straight freelancing instead?
  • edited December 2010
    Oh absolutely - it's just building the infrastructure to be able to do that!

    I suppose I was thinking that proper freelancing was something that came about via networking and producing a portfolio - I have been out of the writing game for a while, and am looking for opportunities to do work in whatever capacity so that I have something to show to prospective clients or employers. A lot of what I have is either academic, or screenwriting, (which really is playing the long game).

    A lot of the writing jobs that I'm taking at the moment aren't paid...they're exiting, and I'm sure will lead to better things, but I'm just thinking that if there is other flexible stuff I can be doing in the meantime while I sort my business infrastructure out, where better to do that than by getting paid, (for however small an amount) for writing via these services, as long as they are legitemate.

    Maybe I need to think bigger re freelancing - any resources you might suggest?
  • no resources, I don't freelance, I am a full time novelist these days, but - try the Writers Handbook and - having chosen your subject, check out your chosen magazine, look through a few copies, check their guidelines (on line if they are there) and go for it. Write an article a day, get them out there, go on writing that article a day and see how it goes. It's one of the toughest ways to earn a living I know of, which is why I also go to work - even though I am past retirement age. (I am a full time editor and run a small publishing company too!)
  • edited December 2010
    hey people, come on! Lots of advice needed here, not let it slip down to page 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • I've found freelance work via a website in the past, but it's now defunct.
  • sorry I have nothing to add as (at present) I don't use any websites for freelance work

    I write mainly short stories and simply search Duotrope, or the newstands, for markets
  • Welcome to TB, mwoodman and congrats on taking "the plunge" into a life concentrated around writing !

    I have found that the usual "outsourcing" route is, as dorothy says, too much work for too little reward. Have to say I am hit and miss with what I freelance but I would always suggest that you just write, write, write and send, send, send. Just getting your work out there is the key. Pity I don't practice more of what I preach ;)
  • Either way there is a neat little quiz on the WoW site that only takes a few minutes - you know a their/there/they're type thing. I got the following message:

    You had 20 correct answers.
    This gives you a score of 100 %.

    17 - 20 is deemed excellent.

    Give it a try - it's pretty basic stuff.

    Oh and welcome mwoodman.
  • edited December 2010
    I work full-time as a freelancer for women's magazines and national newspapers, MW, so it can be done. I wouldn't personally write for any of the outsourcing companies you mention because they pay peanuts for the amount of work required. I run a blog about how to earn money as a freelance writer at http://deborah-durbin.blogspot.com/ which might be of some help to you.

    [EDITED BY WEBBO: fix web link]
  • Have just tried your link midia, and am told the page does not exist.
  • I found the same problem too.
  • No it's not working.
  • gosh you lot are prompt! It's fixed now
  • [quote=Webbo]gosh you lot are prompt![/quote]

    Yep, we're like piranhas, ready to eat the flesh off a juicy blog.
  • Thank you, Webbo!
  • "smunch smulch gnaw" :)
  • mwoodman, I looked at academicknowledge, having just graduated from uni this year with a shiny new BSc. I was very disappointed. Some of the assignments are HUGE and the money pro rata makes it not worth my while spending the time.

    Now another point in more general terms and not with particular reference to this site or any other. There is a huge market in 'plagiarised' work out there. Universities are turning themselves inside out trying to control it and use text checking software to see if students' 'own' work has been copied from elsewhere. Whilst these sites may commission work from you bona fide, for their market in 'model answers' etc, once you have uploaded your work to them - as soon as it gets 'into the system' onto the servers and travelling round the net, you simply have no control or no way of knowing if it ends up being copied and pasted by a student and passed off as their own work.

    I worked damned hard for my degree, so I decided to back off the whole 'technical paper' thing. Until there's an effective way of policing and verifying the authenticity of work submitted by students, I feel I don't want to risk inadvertantly getting tainted by it. I hasten to add that the majority of students are honest: as usual it is the small minority who spoils it for everyone.

    I'm disappointed too because I was relying on pulling £200 - £300 per month by freelance writing but I have reached a dead end. I'm not getting anywhere with short stories (I don't write enough of them in any case).
  • PBW, you've raised a very big and important issue here, and I am sorry it didn't work out for you. That would have been a useful income.

    Short stories won't earn you a living, but article writing will, if you do enough of them.
  • [quote=dorothyd]Short stories won't earn you a living[/quote]

    No but if you write enough of them, you have a nice little bonus to your article writing.
  • I agree, if you can write for womags. I can't! It's a specialised market, I feel, and not everyone can do it.
  • I don't really have the ideas and my heart's not in it. I'm more interested in writing 'How to' articles - that's what I like doing.
  • Interesting thread.
    I've looked at some of the sort of sites mwoodman is referring to and dismissed them out of hand. Far too much work required for far too low pay!
    Although I'm not trying to earn a living wage from my writing; I do it for pleasure, nevertheless I think some of the rates offered are seriously taking the michael.
    I therefore only write articles for printed publications.
  • I checked and Nwoodman was only here for that one posting, so far anyway. His thread slipped down the board very fast, I think due to the heading, TBH. I rescued it and we have had some interesting posts. So, hoping he/she comes back to read them, but if not, we've raised some good points and discussed some good things on here.
  • Yes, well hopefully he/she will be back. I also noted that another new member "wordjockey" posted questions which lots of tber's responded to and he/she hasn't been back since! Never fails to amaze me. ;)
  • oh yes, wordjockey, same thing. It's crazy, you join a forum, ask a question and then disappear.
  • [quote=claudia]wordjockey" posted questions which lots of tber's responded to and he/she hasn't been back since[/quote]
    do you think they are cyber spies?
  • I think they are simply writers looking for information to put into articles they're writing.
  • Could be Dora.
  • Hmm, that's an interesting idea, Dora and one I'd never considered. But according to his/her account page, wordjockey only logged in the day after he/she posted the thread. If wj was only leeching us for information, surely he'd look in several times?
  • [quote=claudia]If wj was only leeching us for information, surely he'd look in several times? [/quote]

    Possibly and I could be quite wrong. Maybe though, research takes a lot of time and effort and if a writer receives enough info back from a variety of sources, there's no need for them to waste time returning to sites such as these.
  • I never thought of that, Dora, but it's very possible, why else so many questions and then disappear? Most new arrivals come tentative and then ask questions when they get used to the board.
    The others who do annoy me, I have to confess, is those who come on here just to promote a book and are never seen again.
  • You shouldn't let it annoy you dorothy although I can see how it appears people are being ill-mannered.

    I just see that as writers doing what they can to get their book noticed, and an obvious stop would be a site where other writers are. Generally posts like that get ignored anyway, well, they do by me, unless the book is of some interest to me, which they rarely are.
  • I need to develop your casual approach, Dora!
    Thanks for that.
  • edited December 2010
    Hello again.

    I do exist, and I'm not a spambot. Just been rather busy is all, and my forum research is one of many threads I'm following up.

    Thank you for all your support in this thread - some really useful information.
  • good to see you, MW, hope we have been able to help.
  • Great news, mwoodman - it's always nice to see new members and always disappointing when they disappear again, so I'm glad to know you haven't given up on us just yet. :)
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