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In a story set in the future I don't want one character addressing a couple as 'Mr' and 'Mrs' X. I like 'Citizen', but I would still like somehow to differentiate between the sexes.
I think differenciating between the sexes would be unlikely if a new term were devised. Something which allowed for same sex marriage seems more likely.
Yes, that would be the ideal. I just have a business-like conversation going between three people and I somehow want to show that two of them are a male/female couple. If the third participant addresses them in the same way, then it might be confusing as there are no physical details mentioned.
You need a logic for 'da' - readers need a logic to even fictional terms, otherwise they are distracted. I can't tell you how painful it is to read a book where the author has created names and words without any thought to logic.
That's why I can't usually cope with dystopian/sci-fi stories - too much to take in. It's like learning another language!
To me, that new made-up word feminised it, but perhaps I am too close to the story. I have used it in the context of 'she' which I hope makes the distinction clear between the female and her partner. I have also avoided the terms husband and wife. I haven't invented any other words!
The story is more or less finished. I am editing, making it sound convincing as an event set in the future.
Why would new words be invented for exactly the same thing?
Same world, but a looong way into the future. I think 'Mr and Mrs' will sound archaic in my story, especially so as, in the world I have created, birth and death are dealt with completely differently and partnerships are now outside the (long outdated) boundary of marriage.
I think along time into the future it will be accepted that gender is a scale and that everyone should therefore be addressed in a gender neutral pronoun or by their name. If so then in the whole story it would have to be insignificant
When even the bank use my first name these days, using their names ought to work. You could always call them Sir and Madam, or go all Russian and use both first and second names.
But Lizy, far into the future in a gender unspecific place, names may be difficult to assign a gender to.
for instance people are already calling their kids things like River and Rowan and Sky - you can't tell what gender they are. We know a male and a female Rowan.
I am looking forward to seeing how you come up with a solution to this, Nell! I bet you will, you inventive you.
I have actually time-travelled to 2167. On arrival I noted the main race as androgynous. As Liz just identified, many shared the same name. As for formalities, in the home the form of address was: Mo for male and Ma for female. In the business arena the formality was So for male and Sa for female. When trying to identify the etymology of these words, I was advised that the form was adopted for simplicity with the root dating back to the Spanish and European form of 'a' for female and 'o' for male. I hope this helps. O:-)
It's always great to know someone who has time-travelled. Thanks, PET, for the insight!
I tried Citizenza, but it was a bit of a mouthful.
I have overcome the problem by re-wording it slightly. Only one of them is now directly addressed by name, and I have used 'Citizen'; thanks, Baggy. Other than that, they are referred to mostly as 'the male' and 'the female'.
It's always great to know someone who has time-travelled. Thanks, PET, for the insight!
I tried Citizenza, but it was a bit of a mouthful.
I have overcome the problem by re-wording it slightly. Only one of them is now directly addressed by name, and I have used 'Citizen'; thanks, Baggy. Other than that, they are referred to mostly as 'the male' and 'the female'.
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I think differenciating between the sexes would be unlikely if a new term were devised. Something which allowed for same sex marriage seems more likely.
Maybe I could adapt Citizen.
Citizenda?
That's what I'm doing today. It's painful. :-((
To me, that new made-up word feminised it, but perhaps I am too close to the story. I have used it in the context of 'she' which I hope makes the distinction clear between the female and her partner. I have also avoided the terms husband and wife. I haven't invented any other words!
The story is more or less finished. I am editing, making it sound convincing as an event set in the future.
I have opened a can of worms.
http://selfpublishingadvice.org/writing-how-to-create-a-language-for-a-fantasy-novel-world/
for instance people are already calling their kids things like River and Rowan and Sky - you can't tell what gender they are. We know a male and a female Rowan.
I am looking forward to seeing how you come up with a solution to this, Nell! I bet you will, you inventive you.
I tried Citizenza, but it was a bit of a mouthful.
I have overcome the problem by re-wording it slightly. Only one of them is now directly addressed by name, and I have used 'Citizen'; thanks, Baggy. Other than that, they are referred to mostly as 'the male' and 'the female'.
I tried Citizenza, but it was a bit of a mouthful.
I have overcome the problem by re-wording it slightly. Only one of them is now directly addressed by name, and I have used 'Citizen'; thanks, Baggy. Other than that, they are referred to mostly as 'the male' and 'the female'.