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Grammarly Questions

LizyLizy
edited March 2016 in Writing
One: should one say 'other's books' or 'others' books' when referring to multiple people?

Two; when is it correct to use 'myself'?
I only use it when I'm saying, for example, "I made it myself" but people are using it now when I would say 'me' such as in "He gave it to Don and myself".
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  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    1. others'

    2. If you would't say 'He gave it to myself.' then I don't think you should say 'He gave it to Don and myself.'
  • CarolCarol
    edited March 2016
    Surely 2. should be Don and me.

    Though I know there's times when the 'I' version could be relevant...
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    Surely 2. should be Don and me.
    I agree. I suspect people are confused over whether it should me me or I and think they can solve the problem by using another word altogether.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Now look, people - I blogged about this months ago!
    1: others' books - the books of others; other's books - the books of a singular 'other'
    2: I made it myself - correct. He gave it to Don and me. Take out the 'Don and' and it should make sense.
    While we're at it: He gave it to Don and I - wrong. He can't give it to I.
    Myself and Don went to the pictures - Myself can't go anywhere, so don't try it with Don.

    wordsunderoneroof.wordpress.com - it's all there just waiting to be found!

  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    So, do Carol and I get a gold star?
  • CarolCarol
    So, do Carol and I get a gold star?


    (*) (*)
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    Oooh - shiny! :D
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    (*) (*) (*)
    One each and one for Lizy for recognising the grammatical errors in the first place.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    That posted twice all of its own accord. Consider yourselves doubly rewarded.
  • LizyLizy
    Thanks for clarifying question #1, Mrs Bear.

    Is "the others' car' also correct when there's more than one other?
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    A car can only be owned by one person, I believe.

  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    It could refer to a family.

    This is our car. That is the others' car.
  • Baggy BooksBaggy Books
    Doesn't anyone ever walk?
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Yes, 'the others' car is possible. Say you have a party travelling in convoy. Carol went with Lizy and Don, PM went with TN in the others' car' - being the car belonging to Mr and Mrs Bear, the other people in the party.
  • LizLiz
    But what if it was in the context that one group of people were travelling in one car and another group in another - you'd refer... well, now, Mrs B got there first.
  • LizLiz
    I always walk, except when I don't.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Doesn't anyone ever walk?
    Not if one of the cars is an Audi. Audi drivers never walk.

  • LizyLizy
    They often can't drive either.
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    Just to let you know, I like to travel with car snacks.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Mr Bear likes that too, TN - you'll be catered for.
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    Oooh, a lovely day out.

    Can I please just be offered one snack at a time, so I have time to eat it before we get there.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Well, of course, Patsy. One should never eat two snacks at once - not at all dainty.
  • heatherheather
    Oh.
  • Baggy BooksBaggy Books
    Oh.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    *sigh*
  • LizLiz
    *Spits out second snack into hand*
  • LizyLizy
    It depends on what constitutes a snack. One crisp or a packet? One toffee or a whole bag thereof? Two squares of chocolate or an entire bar?

    NB - it's odd only to realise this late in life that constitute contains three Ts.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Three teas between all of us? Someone will have to go without.
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    I'm willing to drink wine instead, if that will help.
  • CarolCarol
    And I'll have coffee.
  • LizLiz
    edited March 2016
    I'll have a herbal Detox. there should be enough to go round. Oh, hang on, there's a T in detox... mint..oh, no... hmmm...
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    Chamomile?
  • Baggy BooksBaggy Books
    I don't mind if I do.
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    Never mind all that. Where's the cake?
  • LizLiz
    I fancy lemon drizzle. It's really weird now I'm slim as a slim thing, I seem to be able to eat cake no problem.
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    Carol's good at making that. She used to make it all the time when I first joined TB. I expect she has a spare in the freezer.

    I quite fancy chocolate cake today.
  • LizyLizy
    How about tea cakes? As we're on the subject of tea.
    With Earl Grey, naturally.
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    Not for me, Lizy. I'd have to pick out the curranty things, or are they raisins? (I'd still have to pick them out)
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    It is just the weather for toasted teacakes with melted butter. And of course Earl Grey, Lizy.
    Lemon drizzle cake - well, you know, it's rude to refuse. Chocolate - a small piece, then, to be sociable. I'll supply the home-made gingernuts.
  • heatherheather
    Earl grey? Bleugh!
  • Tiny NellTiny Nell
    *crooks finger*

    I like it, dahling.
  • LizLiz
    I loathe it,too. It tastes like washing up liquid to me.

    Lots of my friends love it...
  • LizyLizy
    It's an afternoon tea, for that hour when you want something light and clean-tasting. Delicate biscuits go well with Earl Grey, but I'll force down a home-made gingernut.

    English breakfast tea is just that - a strong, wake-you-up tea for mornings.
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    I like Eart Grey, but only in the summer in a garden.

    There is no such thing as English breakfast tea! That's just a fancy name for ordinary, regular tea.
  • LizyLizy
    True - but there is also Yorkshire tea, and one must differentiate between Yorkshire and England.
  • Phots MollPhots Moll
    Fair point.
  • kadokado
    The only tea I can drink is Earl Grey; no milk or sugar.
  • Mrs BearMrs Bear
    Then you shall go tot he ball, Kado (or in this case, a rather odd picnic).
  • LizyLizy
    She'll have to take a flask.
  • Shon85Shon85
    Mrs Bear, that wordpress article is fantastic. So informative and helpful, yet written in an understandable and friendly way. I've bookmarked it, and will be referring to it while editing.
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